Jamstix & REAPER

Azimuth (Archive) · Post by **Azimuth (Archive)** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:14 am

I use Reaper also, latest version of JS & Reaper both, and have not noticed any problems like this. I would suggest backing up your harddrive asap because I suspect you may have a drive that is failing. This is just a hunch based on past experience that had similar symptoms.

Brother_Fats · Post by **Brother_Fats** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 8:41 am

a_zimuth wrote:I use Reaper also, latest version of JS & Reaper both, and have not noticed any problems like this. I would suggest backing up your harddrive asap because I suspect you may have a drive that is failing. This is just a hunch based on past experience that had similar symptoms.

I appreciate the response. I don't think that's the issue, though. I am a programmer and I have a long background in IT. This isn't a hardware problem--it's too specific to the difference between the .j2d files and between JS 3 & 4.

Why would JS 3, which is using the same .j2d file as JS 4, show none of the same issues with it?

I just tested the hypothesis that there is some sort of hard drive error associated with the .j2d file. I copied the .j2d file to a different hard drive and loaded it back into JS 4 from there. The problem still exists.

The only other possibility is that there is a hard disk error associated with the JS 4 installation, but I find that difficult to believe. This is a fairly new PC and I am seeing no other evidence of any issues with this drive.

I hesitate to go to the trouble to uninstall JS 4 and reinstall it to a different hard drive, because my gut tells me this isn't a hard disk problem. Years of programming experience tell me this is some sort of bug or incorrect setting in JS 4.

One thing I just noticed when loading the .j2d file: the load is instantaneous. I just saved it to a different name on the 2nd hard drive. The save of the same file to a different name took 3 minutes and 27 seconds.

But thanks again, I appreciate your thoughts.

Azimuth (Archive) · Post by **Azimuth (Archive)** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:11 am

No problem, it was only a suggestion. The issue I had exhibited the same symptoms saving files with only one program and no other. I always assumed it was a bad sector where the program was written or a servo issue addressing a particular track. But as I said, it was only an assumption. The drive quickly degraded and died completely shortly afterwards. Just a heads up.

Brother_Fats · Post by **Brother_Fats** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:36 am

a_zimuth wrote:No problem, it was only a suggestion. The issue I had exhibited the same symptoms saving files with only one program and no other. I always assumed it was a bad sector where the program was written or a servo issue addressing a particular track. But as I said, it was only an assumption. The drive quickly degraded and died completely shortly afterwards. Just a heads up.

Right. Thanks. I have lost hard drives myself with the same symptom.

Something I just noticed on this when looking at the .j2d files.

1) File size before I had the problem: 68kb
2) File size when problem first occurred: 120kb
3) File size after saving the file this morning: 242kb

The difference between 1 & 2 is I edited the kick drum to match the bass.

There should be no difference between the #2 and #3. I changed nothing. Why did it double in size? Perhaps that's a clue...

Azimuth (Archive) · Post by **Azimuth (Archive)** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 9:43 am

You could use the Jamstix Manager to send your log files to Ralph for his review and explain the situation. He's pretty busy at the moment with the OS X beta but I'm sure he'd check it out for you.
EDIT: Send the j2d file also if you can.

Post by **Ralph @ Rayzoon** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 10:10 am

Yes, send me the files to check that out but first make sure that 'Save minimal undo states' is checked for Jamstix 4 in REAPER. That may solve the problem already because otherwise REAPER will request the JS4 data every time the GUI window is closed, for example.

Brother_Fats · Post by **Brother_Fats** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 12:47 pm

Thanks!!

My current REAPER Compatibility settings for Jamstix are were as follows:

CHECKED
Hard reset on playback start
Save state as VST bank
Automatic notifications: Default notification settings

NOT CHECKED
Save minimal undo states
Avoid loading undo states when possible
Buggy plugin compatibility mode

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I turned ON "Save minimal undo states."

I was then able to to close the Jamstix FX window instantly.

Saving the project (which has nothing in it except the 9 JS 4 tracks), took about 1:35 seconds.

Saving the .j2d file took about 1m 20s.

Should I change any of the other compatibility settings?

Azimuth (Archive) · Post by **Azimuth (Archive)** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:01 pm

Just to add to the diagnostics Ralph and Chris, except for checking "minimal undo states", that matches my settings in Reaper exactly.

Brother_Fats · Post by **Brother_Fats** » Sun Nov 18, 2018 1:22 pm

a_zimuth wrote:Just to add to the diagnostics Ralph and Chris, except for checking "minimal undo states", that matches my settings in Reaper exactly.

Thanks!

I'll send you the files, Ralph. I appreciate the help.

Chris

Silvia_Gold · Post by **Silvia_Gold** » Wed Nov 21, 2018 10:48 am

Hello Ralph,
I purhased Rayzoon 3 and many Drumpakcs times ago...then quit recording for a while. Now I downloaded rayzoon4 to test it on 2 PCs with 2 DAWs but I always have the same problem:
After Razoon installing - audioM8.dll and jamstix.dll are VSTPlugins folder, but only audioM8 is showing up in the DAWs.(It's not listet under the DAWs Vst & audioM8 just shows up with a white square)

After rescanning or puttting them in a subfolder: again: only audioM8 shows up in the DAWs.
Its on a fresh Windows7 or 10 and fresh Reaper installation.
What can I do... I like Razoon the best but I can't use it

Thanks for any hint.
LG Andrea