Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
Thanks for the tip. I'll check it out.
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
So I tried setting up a Windows VM on my Monterey Mac. (Parallels). Installed Jamstix4 4.5 and Audiogridder beta9.
It works. Sorta. Still working through it. I can get the drum grooves playing in LogicPro, so that is good, but still figuring out how to make the remote GUI stuff work right.. It worked when I did it over network to a PC, but doing it now on VM...the GUI doesn't respond to mouse(unless you go into the actual VM to do so), and figuring out how to make Jamstix GUI the right size is a bit challenging, due to the way Parallels does something for Retina display...and Jamstix generally doesn't like that.. etc..
Anyway for those people absolutely desperate to get Jamstix working on their Mac, I think this will work, but still need to sort out some of the screen issues to make it truly seamless. Would be interesting if Ralph could take a closer look at this to figure out the best settings in Jamstix zoom, etc, or whatever else..
I had to set Jamstix GUI zoom to 200%. On the Parallels retina monitor this had the effect of causing the plugin window around Jamstix GUI to be 4x bigger then the GUI itself, but the only way to make it even close to readable. I think this is a combination of the fact I'm using a Retina display and how Parallels configures itself and the windows resolution settings to make it all work. The rest of windows looks perfect and beautiful, but Jamstix GUI is tiny, without 200% zoom. But that makes the frame around the plugin super huge.
Audiogridder actually brings the GUI into the Mac, using FFmpeg to do it, but it does not seem responsive in some way, which might be related to the resolution issues...When I was doing this over a network connection to an actual PC...didn't have these problems. Only with the VM. Its probably solvable, but I'm running out of ideas for exactly how to set things up so it will work right. I think Parallels has a scale mode where it would work, but no retina goodness in the windows VM..but might not matter for this use case.
Also, want to point out that the current beta version of Audiogridder seems to have some timing issues related to latency correction. You can disable the extra buffers in the Audiogridder connection, which eliminates the problem, but then you will get dropouts. This appears to be a bug in Audiogridder that will hopefully be fixed.
It works. Sorta. Still working through it. I can get the drum grooves playing in LogicPro, so that is good, but still figuring out how to make the remote GUI stuff work right.. It worked when I did it over network to a PC, but doing it now on VM...the GUI doesn't respond to mouse(unless you go into the actual VM to do so), and figuring out how to make Jamstix GUI the right size is a bit challenging, due to the way Parallels does something for Retina display...and Jamstix generally doesn't like that.. etc..
Anyway for those people absolutely desperate to get Jamstix working on their Mac, I think this will work, but still need to sort out some of the screen issues to make it truly seamless. Would be interesting if Ralph could take a closer look at this to figure out the best settings in Jamstix zoom, etc, or whatever else..
I had to set Jamstix GUI zoom to 200%. On the Parallels retina monitor this had the effect of causing the plugin window around Jamstix GUI to be 4x bigger then the GUI itself, but the only way to make it even close to readable. I think this is a combination of the fact I'm using a Retina display and how Parallels configures itself and the windows resolution settings to make it all work. The rest of windows looks perfect and beautiful, but Jamstix GUI is tiny, without 200% zoom. But that makes the frame around the plugin super huge.
Audiogridder actually brings the GUI into the Mac, using FFmpeg to do it, but it does not seem responsive in some way, which might be related to the resolution issues...When I was doing this over a network connection to an actual PC...didn't have these problems. Only with the VM. Its probably solvable, but I'm running out of ideas for exactly how to set things up so it will work right. I think Parallels has a scale mode where it would work, but no retina goodness in the windows VM..but might not matter for this use case.
Also, want to point out that the current beta version of Audiogridder seems to have some timing issues related to latency correction. You can disable the extra buffers in the Audiogridder connection, which eliminates the problem, but then you will get dropouts. This appears to be a bug in Audiogridder that will hopefully be fixed.
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
Thanks, I got this running with an Intel NUC as a server and it seems to work well. However, Logic only lets me select a mono or stereo instance of the Audio Gridder plugin. I notice that the change notes for the 1.2𛽠say that it should be able to handle multi-output instruments but I can't see an obvious way to do that.Dewdman42 wrote:For anyone interested, I have been able to use Jamstix on my Mac, by using a free tool called AudioGridder.
All I get is the audio from Jamstix output 1 unless I use the "Downmix" button but, for serious use, I really need it to be multi-output.
Have you had any luck doing this?
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
Ok, rebooted the mac and the rescan solved the problem I think. I can now see multi-output versions of audio gridder.
This is looking promising. Thanks for finding it for us.
This is looking promising. Thanks for finding it for us.
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
For some reason in LogicPro I'm only getting mono version of AudioGridder(ins) AUinst. No stereo. Tried reboot too already.
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
Have you tried clearing the cache and rescanning on the server side?
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
no but I will.
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
nope, full reset and scan....still only see mono version of AUinst in LogicPro. I have put in a bug reports at GitHub on this.
Also, the latency correction is not correct right now, in the beta9 version, hope they can work that out..generally it works pretty good though... Jamstix lives on...
Also, the latency correction is not correct right now, in the beta9 version, hope they can work that out..generally it works pretty good though... Jamstix lives on...
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
I've checked and when I was using the release version I was getting both mono and stereo instrument plugins in Logic. When I installed the beta only the mono version was available. I rebooted/rescanned and the multi out versions appeared but, now that I look at it, the stereo version is missing. I get mono, 16 x mono and 25 x mono but no stereo option.Dewdman42 wrote:nope, full reset and scan....still only see mono version of AUinst in LogicPro. I have put in a bug reports at GitHub on this.
Also, the latency correction is not correct right now, in the beta9 version, hope they can work that out..generally it works pretty good though... Jamstix lives on...
When you say there is a latency problem, what are you noticing? I've just done basic testing so I haven't tried to produce a track yet but I'm not immediately noticing a latency issue. The monitor is reporting around 2.5ms latency.
Jamstix 4.4.3 Beta 3 (macOS) is now available
I'm using the beta9 version, maybe the stable version is more "stable". heheh.
audiogridder has a way to specify its own buffer. By default I think its 2 buffers, which works out to 83ms of latency for me, which is I guess 2x of the buffer size maybe.
In any case, jamstick is playing back out of sync. You can bounce it to audio and see how out of s sync it is. The only way I get proper sync is to switch audiogridder's buffer to none, then it plays back perfectly in sync and bounces ample accurately as expected, but sometimes you will get dropouts that way.
Audiogridder is known to need to impose this extra latency. Which is fine, but any plugin like Jamstix should report its own latency and audio gridder should report that latency plus its own extra buffers...to the host, which should make it so that Jamstix latency would be compensated for entirely. but it is not, I guess its in live mode or something... Anyway..that's the results I'm getting and others have reported similar problems on the GitHub issue tracker.
audiogridder has a way to specify its own buffer. By default I think its 2 buffers, which works out to 83ms of latency for me, which is I guess 2x of the buffer size maybe.
In any case, jamstick is playing back out of sync. You can bounce it to audio and see how out of s sync it is. The only way I get proper sync is to switch audiogridder's buffer to none, then it plays back perfectly in sync and bounces ample accurately as expected, but sometimes you will get dropouts that way.
Audiogridder is known to need to impose this extra latency. Which is fine, but any plugin like Jamstix should report its own latency and audio gridder should report that latency plus its own extra buffers...to the host, which should make it so that Jamstix latency would be compensated for entirely. but it is not, I guess its in live mode or something... Anyway..that's the results I'm getting and others have reported similar problems on the GitHub issue tracker.