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reggae_greggae wrote:Also wonder if there was any thought about putting feature requests on github or something? I know it's a code repository(I use it as such), but I notice that real feature request discussions always seem to get swallowed up in a lot of noise and I wonder if some valid ideas/suggestions/bugs get missed. Might be a way of distinguishing and prioritizing real requests from some of the standard chatter. Not that I'm against chatter but from a developer's perspective it can muddy the water.
Is github another site/location? I'm not sure I'd be in favor of more clicks to accomplish the same thing ... years of learning from masters in DAW land make that seem like something to be avoided! :D BTW, why would that distinguish and prioritize real requests from some of the standard chatter? What is a real request? ... I worry that mine might be considered not real enough, and they would be consigned to reside in the little boy forum! :cry: :lol: :lol:
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alexis wrote:
reggae_greggae wrote:Also wonder if there was any thought about putting feature requests on github or something? I know it's a code repository(I use it as such), but I notice that real feature request discussions always seem to get swallowed up in a lot of noise and I wonder if some valid ideas/suggestions/bugs get missed. Might be a way of distinguishing and prioritizing real requests from some of the standard chatter. Not that I'm against chatter but from a developer's perspective it can muddy the water.
Is github another site/location? I'm not sure I'd be in favor of more clicks to accomplish the same thing ... years of learning from masters in DAW land make that seem like something to be avoided! :D BTW, why would that distinguish and prioritize real requests from some of the standard chatter? What is a real request? ... I worry that mine might be considered not real enough, and they would be consigned to reside in the little boy forum! :cry: :lol: :lol:
It's a code repository - with the options for tracking specific issues and requests. You can differentiate between bugs and enhancements and it separates comments from discrete issues/features.

An example - it's just a project that I eventually moved internal to my company repo.
https://github.com/nemonster/es-support ... s/issues/1

Note that on the initial comment as well as later ones you can just indicate a +1, -1, Laugh, Love, etc. Just saying that if you were deciding on what was important to the user base you could tell people to go vote for what they liked best and it takes the guesswork out of it.

I don't know how, perusing this forum, you'd keep track of a feature request. As a free form discussion it's fine. Working off places like this is a PITA if you're trying to actually get something done. Nothing against the residents here, but this place, The Gear Page, and any DAW forum are magnets for ADHD commentary. Just peruse this thread and see how much if it is real discussion and how much if it is just talking to be talking.

I happen to think the addition of a few clicks is not a bad thing. It acts as a filter of sorts.

I find that when you ask someone to put an issue in a real tracking tool, it tends to reward those who can clearly articulate what they want and why and who's just chiming in with, "Yeah, JS IS AWESOME!" Again, not that there's anything inherently wrong with that, but it creates a lot of noise. And when you're figuring out what you want to do from a development perspective, I've never considered that kind of distraction an asset.

You could possibly do it within the context of the current board. But it would take some discipline on both ends to make that work.

I don't have any kind of strong feeling. But as I look through these posts, it's kind of hard for me to pick things out that I'd find actionable. And diver deeper into them as more chatter comes in. I saw Ralph just moved one suggestion into another thread for just that reason.

It's his project. Not trying to comment or push.
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shadowfax_ wrote:I hardly ever have the [i:aa8a110c97]drum view[/i:aa8a110c97] on...
So I'm not sure I follow then why you're so focused on it?
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Post by stpete111 »

Although I've been a proponent of the "don't focus so much on what the dang drumkit looks like" mentality, I do need to second and third the posts stressing the need for major changes in the intuitive use department as it pertains to making any manual tweaks outside of the groove/sound JS produces for you.
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Post by r_poncher »

reggae_greggae wrote:And while I'm bitching, I'd like to have a niceer interface for adding third party midi. If you have a long path, it will get cut off and you have to kind of remember what you added and where. It would be nice if it had a better visual representation of the drum hierarchy. Or better yet, if you could assign some kind of an alias/shortcut or label to a path it cut down on the length. So you wind up with something like EZD Funk Classic rather than the full path on disk.
That's a really good suggestion. A lot of other samplers allow you to add links to user directories, why not Jamstix?
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Post by r_poncher »

Regarding the new interface, seeing posts of it doesn't do anything to excite me for the new version. It's not that I think it looks bad, but when that is the teaser posted, it gives the impression that this is what Ralph has spent all his time working on to the exclusion of features I might consider more useful.

I am sure that Ralph has been working on a lot of ways to make the product more flexible and intuitive and add in a bunch of the drummers everyone's been clamoring for. This teaser just does not give that impression.
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Post by acdc_2000 »

is there now a possible date, when public beta version come ?. for me the 3d thing is not need. i only like the other new features you told, or at least some more working as in 3.6
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Post by Ralph @ Rayzoon »

Still working through internal Beta, dealing with issues found. As soon as we can exclude showstoppers, it will go private Beta and then public. There are TONS of changes in JS4, not just workflow improvements but also game changers like part linking. I think it will be worth the wait.
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Post by andean_w »

I have a question. Will it support ramping tempo?
if I recall right JS3 only supports the block tempo, but sometimes it's nice to mess around with fluid tempo.
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Post by Ralph @ Rayzoon »

You can ramp tempo in the host with JS3 and it will follow properly. Let me know if I misunderstood you.
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